Well that was interesting.
For those of you who did not get a chance to tune in to my interview with Heather Wade on Art Bell's "Midnight in the Desert" show - you can find it here:
It's worthy of note for a number of reasons. Heather was familiar with her own near death experience (which I was not aware of) and she was passingly familiar with the accounts people had during a "Life Between life" hypnotherapy session, the kind done via the Newton Institute.
But she noted that in her near death experience, she had a profound past life review - where she got to "experience" everything good or bad she's done in this lifetime, and saw her journey in an instant. "Flashing before her eyes" so to speak.
But she didn't meet anyone during this event. Nor did she see any of the hallmarks associated with a between life hypnotherapy session (meeting your spiritual guide(s), seeing your soul group, or visiting your council to meet those who've been keeping an eye on your for all of your lifetimes.)
These are common experiences for those who've done a between life hypnotherapy session, but not common in near death experiences. I think the reports show that a percentage of people "meet" others, or "higher consciousnesses" during their near death experience, but rarely to people spontaneously remember a visit to their council - at least not in the way that people who've done between life therapy had.
I can speak from experience - because I was skeptical of going anywhere during a between life session - and I went to see all the hallmarks of these sessions, including my soul group, my guides, and meeting my council. It was a humbling experience which I recount in "Flipside: A tourist's guide on how to navigate the afterlife."
But Heather had not seen anyone in her between life experience.
I asked Heather if she wanted to "try" to revisit her near death experience "live" on the air while we were talking over three hours. She said she would like to.
I preface the following with this technique that I've honed from having filmed 40 between life sessions, having read Michael Newton's books, looked over Dr. Helen Wambach's cases where she asked people about "choosing their lifetime" under hypnosis. I've also spent some time interviewing people who've had near death experiences, and as of late, using my knowledge of the between lives realm to interview (through mediums) people who are no longer on the planet to see if they can confirm or deny some of these reports.
So when I said "would you like to explore it?" I meant - "I've been exploring this awhile, and if it's possible to find something - we might find it."
I had no idea if Heather would "find" anything or anyone. She had no idea I was going to ask her to do this. Again, I had no knowledge of her near death experience, other than her mentioning it on the air - and saying that she had this "incredible past life review."
I asked if we could go to the moment just prior to the review. To a moment that still had clarity in her mind, like flying or traveling through space in spirit form.
She said she could access that and I asked if she was floating, zooming, or being pulled. She described a zooming sensation, but that it was not deliberate - as if she was being drawn somewhere. I asked if it was like "metal fillings" being drawn across a table. (a description I'm familiar with.) She said "Yes."
She then said she felt after passing tiny pinpoints of light, it was as if she was slowing down. She stopped just shy of a brightly colored cloud.
Now at this point, most scientists stop their inquiry. They'll ask "did you go through the cloud?" speaking in past tense. It's at this point, because she's being so descriptive, I asked "Can you put your hand in the light? And if so, tell me what it feels like?" She said it was warm, almost hot, but not uncomfortable. In fact she said there was a feeling of "contentment" associated with it.
After getting her to describe the colors inside this cloud, I asked her to "go through the cloud" in her minds eye and describe that feeling. She did. As she came through the other side she said she felt a "presence nearby." I asked what it was - male or female, and she said she didn't know - just that it was a presence that felt familiar to her.
Because of my familiarity with these surroundings - and because we were live on air - I asked her if she minded if I "skipped ahead." She said no. I asked whoever it was that is the presence nearby if he could shift his energy to appear to her in a form she could recognize and we could ask questions to. She said "I see a male. He's old, looks Asian, has long gray hair and a long gray beard." I asked if there was anything he wanted to tell her - and she said "He's telling me "it took you long enough to come back here."
Now I don't know what the means, because I don't know how long ago her event was. I do know it wasn't what she expected to hear - and noted that it was "new information" for both of us. A guide laughing and saying "It took you long enough to come back here to see me." Pretty funny.
But we came up on a commercial break. As Heather said "I'm afraid if I break I'm going to lose this connection" and I said "Let me ask your friend to stick around until we come back." When we came back after a few minutes, she said "during the break he was laughing, and become more and more clear to me. I feel as if I have one foot in the radio studio, and another in this other realm."
I thanked him for doing so - asked him his name. He gave her "Mr. Chown." I thanked him for "putting that name in her head." Then I asked some simple questions about her path and journey. "How is she doing?" He said essentially that she's doing great, that she's doing what she set out to do, and even though it was a surprise (for her to take over this Art Bell show) it was the right thing for her to do.
I asked if she knew this person, and asked him if he was her guide. He said "Yes" and she said "no, I've never seen him before, but I feel like I know him." I asked him how many people were in her soul group. She said "18."
We could have gone to visit the soul group, but knowing we only had so much time on the air, I chose to ask him to take her to the place that she was skeptical about - the place that she'd read about but didn't quite believe - her own council.
I asked her to describe if we were "inside or outside." She said "Odd. We're outside, but we're in outer space." I asked how many people were in her council. She said "12." (Newton said the average is from 6-12, and the more people on a council reflects more accolades earned for difficult lifetimes.) I asked how they were arrayed. She said "In a circle." She was standing, they were seated.
I asked her to approach whomever seemed to be the leader of the group. (there's usually a spokesperson who speaks on everyone's behalf.) She said a woman, also asian, long grey hair was holding a book and she felt herself come forward to her. I asked the woman to show her the book she was holding in her hands.
Heather said when the woman opened the book, it was as if each page had a moving hologram inside of it - that she could see the world inside, and it was her life story. She got about a third of the way into the book and said "I see my house on the page. I'm sitting on a rocking chair on the porch, I have long grey hair." This was also "new information." I've never met anyone who saw a book in the afterlife that was holographic in nature, or that could show us images of something in the future - or was as she described it. It was something she had never seen of, heard of, and had never experienced before.
NEW INFORMATION. Not from anyone or any source on this planet, or cryptomnesia from any book or TV show, or any other device. No one has depicted a book of your life that you could open and see holographic/moving images of your life. That I'm aware of anyway, or that Heather is aware of. Which is what new information requires.
Now if she was in a session with a hypnotherapist, she could explore this in detail - why this moment in time perhaps? But I wanted her to hear or feel from her council. I asked if they could give her a sensation in her body that would reflect on their appreciation for the job she's doing.
She said "I'm in this very cold recording studio and I just saw them all stand up for me, and the entire room I'm in feels like it's now crowded with people."
I asked her lead council member to put a sensation in her body that she could remember, so that when she felt it, it would trigger a memory of this event. She said she had one.
I told Heather that it would likely take a few days for her to "return" fully to her self. That walking into this event does feel like you've stepped off the earth - a physical sensation of concomitance - existing in two places at the same time. I said it would eventually wear away, but you will remember more clearly the things that you've seen here.
Again - she was not under hypnosis. I am not a hypnotist. It was live on the air. Everyone in the audience heard what she was seeing as she said it... and she said "she felt naked" by the experience.
I've done this live with other folks, in a couple of IANDS talks, which I haven't posted them because it does feel like a journey into your most private place to see yourself as you truly are.
I asked her guide to show her how he sees her - as a ball of energetic light, peach in color. I asked her to describe the "cloak" she saw her council member wearing - it was white, or filled with reflective light that made her face glow.
These are also pieces of new information. I imagine there's a art director out there who can imagine an article of clothing that's white, yet adds light in a shimmering way - but it's not me, and it's not Heather. It's the kind of visual I could not make up - and it's the kind of visual Heather would argue that she did not make up. It was shown to her.
What to make of this?
Well, it's just a way of demonstrating that the nature of reality is not what it appears to be. It's a way of demonstrating that we all have guides looking over us, loved ones keeping an eye on us - we are never alone.
And on this day - Memorial Day 2017 - it's important to realize that we can access anyone we've been missing, any loved one who is no longer on the planet - they won't show up to disrupt your reality, but they will show up to help you with this one. Just say their name aloud and ask them some questions.
And that my folks is my two cents for the day.
For those of you who did not get a chance to tune in to my interview with Heather Wade on Art Bell's "Midnight in the Desert" show - you can find it here:
It's worthy of note for a number of reasons. Heather was familiar with her own near death experience (which I was not aware of) and she was passingly familiar with the accounts people had during a "Life Between life" hypnotherapy session, the kind done via the Newton Institute.
But she noted that in her near death experience, she had a profound past life review - where she got to "experience" everything good or bad she's done in this lifetime, and saw her journey in an instant. "Flashing before her eyes" so to speak.
But she didn't meet anyone during this event. Nor did she see any of the hallmarks associated with a between life hypnotherapy session (meeting your spiritual guide(s), seeing your soul group, or visiting your council to meet those who've been keeping an eye on your for all of your lifetimes.)
These are common experiences for those who've done a between life hypnotherapy session, but not common in near death experiences. I think the reports show that a percentage of people "meet" others, or "higher consciousnesses" during their near death experience, but rarely to people spontaneously remember a visit to their council - at least not in the way that people who've done between life therapy had.
I can speak from experience - because I was skeptical of going anywhere during a between life session - and I went to see all the hallmarks of these sessions, including my soul group, my guides, and meeting my council. It was a humbling experience which I recount in "Flipside: A tourist's guide on how to navigate the afterlife."
But Heather had not seen anyone in her between life experience.
Until now.
I asked Heather if she wanted to "try" to revisit her near death experience "live" on the air while we were talking over three hours. She said she would like to.
I preface the following with this technique that I've honed from having filmed 40 between life sessions, having read Michael Newton's books, looked over Dr. Helen Wambach's cases where she asked people about "choosing their lifetime" under hypnosis. I've also spent some time interviewing people who've had near death experiences, and as of late, using my knowledge of the between lives realm to interview (through mediums) people who are no longer on the planet to see if they can confirm or deny some of these reports.
So when I said "would you like to explore it?" I meant - "I've been exploring this awhile, and if it's possible to find something - we might find it."
I had no idea if Heather would "find" anything or anyone. She had no idea I was going to ask her to do this. Again, I had no knowledge of her near death experience, other than her mentioning it on the air - and saying that she had this "incredible past life review."
I asked if we could go to the moment just prior to the review. To a moment that still had clarity in her mind, like flying or traveling through space in spirit form.
She said she could access that and I asked if she was floating, zooming, or being pulled. She described a zooming sensation, but that it was not deliberate - as if she was being drawn somewhere. I asked if it was like "metal fillings" being drawn across a table. (a description I'm familiar with.) She said "Yes."
She then said she felt after passing tiny pinpoints of light, it was as if she was slowing down. She stopped just shy of a brightly colored cloud.
Now at this point, most scientists stop their inquiry. They'll ask "did you go through the cloud?" speaking in past tense. It's at this point, because she's being so descriptive, I asked "Can you put your hand in the light? And if so, tell me what it feels like?" She said it was warm, almost hot, but not uncomfortable. In fact she said there was a feeling of "contentment" associated with it.
After getting her to describe the colors inside this cloud, I asked her to "go through the cloud" in her minds eye and describe that feeling. She did. As she came through the other side she said she felt a "presence nearby." I asked what it was - male or female, and she said she didn't know - just that it was a presence that felt familiar to her.
Because of my familiarity with these surroundings - and because we were live on air - I asked her if she minded if I "skipped ahead." She said no. I asked whoever it was that is the presence nearby if he could shift his energy to appear to her in a form she could recognize and we could ask questions to. She said "I see a male. He's old, looks Asian, has long gray hair and a long gray beard." I asked if there was anything he wanted to tell her - and she said "He's telling me "it took you long enough to come back here."
Now I don't know what the means, because I don't know how long ago her event was. I do know it wasn't what she expected to hear - and noted that it was "new information" for both of us. A guide laughing and saying "It took you long enough to come back here to see me." Pretty funny.
But we came up on a commercial break. As Heather said "I'm afraid if I break I'm going to lose this connection" and I said "Let me ask your friend to stick around until we come back." When we came back after a few minutes, she said "during the break he was laughing, and become more and more clear to me. I feel as if I have one foot in the radio studio, and another in this other realm."
I thanked him for doing so - asked him his name. He gave her "Mr. Chown." I thanked him for "putting that name in her head." Then I asked some simple questions about her path and journey. "How is she doing?" He said essentially that she's doing great, that she's doing what she set out to do, and even though it was a surprise (for her to take over this Art Bell show) it was the right thing for her to do.
She said he looked a bit like Pai Mei - character from "Kill Bill" |
I asked if she knew this person, and asked him if he was her guide. He said "Yes" and she said "no, I've never seen him before, but I feel like I know him." I asked him how many people were in her soul group. She said "18."
We could have gone to visit the soul group, but knowing we only had so much time on the air, I chose to ask him to take her to the place that she was skeptical about - the place that she'd read about but didn't quite believe - her own council.
Skid Marks on Mars. |
I asked her to approach whomever seemed to be the leader of the group. (there's usually a spokesperson who speaks on everyone's behalf.) She said a woman, also asian, long grey hair was holding a book and she felt herself come forward to her. I asked the woman to show her the book she was holding in her hands.
Heather said when the woman opened the book, it was as if each page had a moving hologram inside of it - that she could see the world inside, and it was her life story. She got about a third of the way into the book and said "I see my house on the page. I'm sitting on a rocking chair on the porch, I have long grey hair." This was also "new information." I've never met anyone who saw a book in the afterlife that was holographic in nature, or that could show us images of something in the future - or was as she described it. It was something she had never seen of, heard of, and had never experienced before.
NEW INFORMATION. Not from anyone or any source on this planet, or cryptomnesia from any book or TV show, or any other device. No one has depicted a book of your life that you could open and see holographic/moving images of your life. That I'm aware of anyway, or that Heather is aware of. Which is what new information requires.
Hans Holbein - in costume |
Now if she was in a session with a hypnotherapist, she could explore this in detail - why this moment in time perhaps? But I wanted her to hear or feel from her council. I asked if they could give her a sensation in her body that would reflect on their appreciation for the job she's doing.
She said "I'm in this very cold recording studio and I just saw them all stand up for me, and the entire room I'm in feels like it's now crowded with people."
I asked her lead council member to put a sensation in her body that she could remember, so that when she felt it, it would trigger a memory of this event. She said she had one.
I told Heather that it would likely take a few days for her to "return" fully to her self. That walking into this event does feel like you've stepped off the earth - a physical sensation of concomitance - existing in two places at the same time. I said it would eventually wear away, but you will remember more clearly the things that you've seen here.
Again - she was not under hypnosis. I am not a hypnotist. It was live on the air. Everyone in the audience heard what she was seeing as she said it... and she said "she felt naked" by the experience.
Goddess of Memory |
I've done this live with other folks, in a couple of IANDS talks, which I haven't posted them because it does feel like a journey into your most private place to see yourself as you truly are.
I asked her guide to show her how he sees her - as a ball of energetic light, peach in color. I asked her to describe the "cloak" she saw her council member wearing - it was white, or filled with reflective light that made her face glow.
These are also pieces of new information. I imagine there's a art director out there who can imagine an article of clothing that's white, yet adds light in a shimmering way - but it's not me, and it's not Heather. It's the kind of visual I could not make up - and it's the kind of visual Heather would argue that she did not make up. It was shown to her.
What to make of this?
Well, it's just a way of demonstrating that the nature of reality is not what it appears to be. It's a way of demonstrating that we all have guides looking over us, loved ones keeping an eye on us - we are never alone.
And on this day - Memorial Day 2017 - it's important to realize that we can access anyone we've been missing, any loved one who is no longer on the planet - they won't show up to disrupt your reality, but they will show up to help you with this one. Just say their name aloud and ask them some questions.
And that my folks is my two cents for the day.
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